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2026-01-09 : Mark was talking the previous day about there being an uptick of christians saying “Jesus is God” — Jeremy confirms. the next day this is revealed with 2 Thessalonians 2 — which is essentially what the christians quote saying “Jesus is God” — that the christians are the group talked about as “the son of perdition”
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John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
This is not talking about ONLY Judas.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Strong’s Breakdown
son (G5207) → υἱός huiŏs, hwee-os’; apparently a primary word; a “son” (sometimes of animals), used very widely of immediate, remote or figuratively, kinship:—child, foal, son.
perdition (G684) → ἀπώλεια apṓleia, ap-o’-li-a; from a presumed derivative of G622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal):—damnable(-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, pernicious ways, waste.
~ similar word ~
Apollyon (G623) → Ἀπολλύων Apollýōn, ap-ol-loo’-ohn; active participle of G622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):—Apollyon.
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the son of perdition → child of destruction / the devil / damnation
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be REVEALED, the son of perdition;
The children of Satan will be revealed by making their works manifest and exposing the darkness!
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made MANIFEST by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
3 But draw ye near hither, ye lawless children, the seed of adulterers and the harlot.
4 Wherein have ye been rioting? and against whom have ye opened your mouth, and against whom have ye loosed your tongue? are ye not children of perdition? a lawless seed?
5 who call upon idols under the leafy trees, slaying your children in the valleys among the rocks?
Isaiah 57:4 Against whom do ye sport yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood.
children of perdition = children of transgression
tells you that the children of perdition are ephraim
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Matthew 24:4 And Yeshua answered and said unto them, Take heed that no 👉 Man 👈 deceive you.
man G5100
τὶς tìs, tis; an enclitic indefinite pronoun; some or any person or object:—a (kind of), any (man, thing, thing at all), certain (thing), divers, he (every) man, one (X thing), ought, + partly, some (man, -body, - thing, -what), (+ that no-)thing, what(-soever), × wherewith, whom(-soever), whose(-soever).
can be “certain one”
Pernicious Ways
perdition (G684) → ἀπώλεια apṓleia, ap-o’-li-a; from a presumed derivative of G622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal):—damnable(-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, 👉 pernicious ways, 👈 waste.
2 Peter 2:1-3,14-15
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their 👉 pernicious ways; 👈 by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
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14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the 👉 way of Balaam 👈 the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
Draw Back
36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
Those that draw back to Jesus/Satan, Yehovah will have no pleasure in them.
1 I will stand upon my watch, and mount upon the rock, and watch to see what he will say by me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved.
2 And the Lord answered me and said, Write the vision, and that plainly on a tablet, that he that reads it may run.
3 For the vision is yet for a time, and it shall shoot forth at the end, and not in vain: though he should tarry, wait for him; for he will surely come, and will not tarry.
4 If he should draw back, my soul has no pleasure in him: but the just shall live by my faith.
5 But the arrogant man and the scorner, the boastful man, shall not finish anything; who has enlarged his desire as the grave, and like death he is never satisfied, and he will gather to himself all the nations, and will receive to himself all the peoples.
Habakkuk 2:5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
Those that draw back are Ephraim that are drunk with pride. These are the ones that go into the pit.
Ascension of Isaiah 3 and Ascension of Isaiah 4:6-11
1 Timothy with Hebrews 11 and Isaiah 62 (give no rest)
look at all the verses where it says “him”, “he”, and “that one” in a negative context
… 2 Corinthians 6:17, Isaiah 52:11
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:
Satan stands at the Christian’s right hand ( Lie in Right Hand & Satan at Right Hand )
other verses
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
transgression = abomination
8 Neither spared he the place where Lot sojourned, but abhorred them for their pride.
9 He pitied not the people of perdition, who were taken away in their sins:
Hymn 14 (formerly 10)
Dead Sea Scrolls; B. Hymns and Poems, The Thanksgiving Hymns, Page 342
XIV (formerly VI)
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Thou hast unstopped my ears [to the correction] of those who reprove with justice
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[Thou hast saved me] from the congregation of [vanity] [5] and from the assembly of violence; Thou hast brought me into the Council of … [and hast purified me of] sin.
And I know there is hope for those who turn from transgression and for those who abandon sin
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and to walk without wickedness in the way of Thy heart.
I am consoled for the roaring of the peoples, and for the tumult of k[ing]doms when they assemble;
[for] in a little while, I know, Thou wilt raise up survivors among Thy people and a remnant within Thine inheritance.
Thou wilt purify and cleanse them of their sin for all their deeds are in Thy truth.
Thou wilt judge them in Thy great loving-kindness and in the multitude of Thy mercies and in the abundance of Thy pardon, teaching them according to Thy word;
and Thou wilt establish them in Thy Council according to the uprightness of Thy truth.
[10] Thou wilt do these things for Thy glory and for Thine own sake, to [magnify] the Law and [the truth and to enlighten] the members of Thy Council in the midst of the sons of men,
that they may recount Thy marvels for everlasting generations and [meditate] unceasingly upon Thy mighty deeds.
All the nations shall acknowledge Thy truth, and all the people Thy glory.
For Thou wilt bring Thy glorious [salvation] to all the men of Thy Council, to those who share a common lot with the Angels of the Face.
And among them shall be no mediator to [invoke Thee],
and no messenger [to make] reply; for …
They shall reply according to Thy glorious word and shall be Thy princes in the company [of the Angels].
They shall send out a bud [for ever] [15] like a flower [of the fields], and shall cause a shoot to grow into the boughs of an everlasting Plant.
It shall cover the whole [earth] with its shadow [and its crown] (shall reach) to the [clouds]; its roots (shall go down) to the Abyss [and all the rivers of Eden shall water its branches].
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A source of light shall become an eternal ever-flowing fountain, and in its bright flames all the [sons of iniquity] shall be consumed; [it shall be] a fire to devour all sinful men in utter destruction.
They who bore the yoke of my testimony have been led astray [by teachers of lies], [and have rebelled] against the service of righteousness.
Whereas Thou, O my God, didst command them [20] to mend their ways [by walking] in the way of [holiness], where no man goes who is uncircumcised or unclean or violent, they have staggered aside from the way of Thy heart and languish in [great] wretchedness.
A counsel of Belial is in their heart [and in accordance with] their wicked design they wallow in sin.
[I am] as a sailor in a ship amid furious seas; their waves and all their billows roar against me.
[There is no] calm in the whirlwind that I may restore my soul, no path that I may straighten my way on the face of the waters.
The deeps resound to my groaning and [my soul has journeyed] to the gates of death.
But I shall be as one who enters a fortified city, [25] as one who seeks refuge behind a high wall until deliverance (comes); I will [lean on] Thy truth, O my God.
For Thou wilt set the foundation on rock and the framework by the measuring-cord of justice; and the tried stones [Thou wilt lay] by the plumb-line [of truth], to [build] a mighty [wall] which shall not sway; and no man entering there shall stagger.
For no enemy shall ever invade [it since its doors shall be] doors of protection through which no man shall pass; and its bars shall be firm and no man shall break them.
No rabble shall enter in with their weapons of war until all the [arrows] of the war of wickedness have come to an end.
And then at the time of Judgement the Sword of God shall hasten, and all the sons of His truth shall awake to [overthrow] wickedness; [30] all the sons of iniquity shall be no more.
The Hero shall bend his bow; the fortress shall open on to endless space and the everlasting gates shall send out weapons of war.
They shall be mighty from end to end [of the earth and there shall be no escape] for the guilty of heart [in their battle]; they shall be utterly trampled down without any [remnant.
There shall be no] hope in the greatness [of their might], no refuge for the mighty warriors; for [the battle shall be] to the Most High God
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Hoist a banner, O you who lie in the dust! O bodies gnawed by worms, raise up an ensign for [the destruction of wickedness]!
[The sinful shall] be destroyed in the battles against the ungodly.
The scourging flood when it advances [35] shall not invade the stronghold
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XV (formerly VII)
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As for me, I am dumb … [my arm] is torn from its shoulder and my foot has sunk into the mire.
My eyes are closed by the spectacle of evil, and my ears by the crying of blood.
My heart is dismayed by the mischievous design, for Belial is manifest in their (evil) inclination.
All the foundations of my edifice totter and my bones are pulled out of joint;
my bowels heave like a ship in a violent tempest [5] and my heart is utterly distressed.
A whirlwind engulfs me because of the mischief of their sin.